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Timberline Outfitters, Wyoming


​Tales, Tips and Testimonials from the Cowboy State

Judging Speed Goats: Nick Oceanak

2/12/2020

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You’ve drawn a license for the fastest land animal in North America, the Pronghorn! Well that’s great but how do you know what to look for in a mature buck? The pronghorn is one of the most difficult animals to judge in all North America. I’m speaking in terms of antler size of course! Even after being a professional big game hunting guide in Wyoming for seventeen years I still misjudge pronghorn on the hoof. Now pronghorn are not antelope but are often referred to as such because they closely resemble the true antelope in Africa. So, I will use both terms as I refer to them in this article. We regularly call them “speed goats” as well (because of their similar features to goats and notorious speed).
So why are pronghorn so hard to judge? First, their antlers aren’t very large to begin with. Therefore, a difference of twelve inches and fourteen inches is hardly anything at 800 yards but a world of difference up close. Due to the far distances from which you will be looking at antelope, you’ll need to know what to look for. I’m a firm believer that score means very little and that the trophy is in the eye of the beholder. However, to better help you understand what to look for in the antlers of a mature pronghorn I’ll be talking about SCI scoring a little bit. It’s also a good way to convey relative size to other people. You get one length measurement on each side starting from the base and ending at the tip. Then you divide that number by four to find where you will take your four mass measurements. Finally, you get one prong measurement on each side. (ex. figure right)
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A mature pronghorn buck harvested with a longbow.
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Mass is the most important factor when it comes to score. Now, you’ll see in the figure that two mass measurements fall below the prong and two above. If the third mass measurement spot falls below the prong you are getting a much bigger score than if it is above, so keep that in mind. When judging a buck, you’ll be critiquing three main things: mass, length and prong size.
OK, so how does one take this basic knowledge to the field and successfully judge a goat at 1,000 yards!? I’ll give you a couple quick, handy tricks to do so. 
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  1. Look at where the height in which the prong comes off the main antler. If it’s below the ear, then it is most likely a younger buck. If it’s equal the height of the ear or higher then you’re looking at a mature buck. 
  2. Study each buck and make sure you get a good look from every angle possible. This will help you judge the three main aspects discussed earlier. The most important angle is the side or profile. This way you can determine relative mass, length, overall antler curl and prong size. Every buck is unique so the more angles the better. It’s easy to look at a buck from straight on and say, “oh that’s a big one!” But don’t fall for it! He may not have much mass, or he may not curl making him look taller that he is, or he may not have much for prongs.
  3. Think about all other factors at play. Is the buck alone during the rut? If so, did he get run off by a bigger buck? Are you looking at a buck among a big group of bucks during the rut? If so, he may be a younger buck hanging with other young bucks because they can’t get close to the does. Has it been a good year in terms of habitat? Is it an area known for producing big bucks?
Body size can help in some cases when looking at comparable bucks at great distances. Look for a stout block body with a thick neck and a big belly. Sometimes older bucks are lighter in color, but I’ve found that color varies greatly and doesn’t always indicate a bucks age.
The prongs come off the antler below the ear, so we are looking at a young buck.
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So, let’s recap on the three main aspects of the antlers: mass, length and prong size. 

1. Mass is the most important attribute in terms of overall antler size. Look at the eye in respect to the size of the antler from the side. If the antler is as wide as the eye or wider you know you’re looking at some decent mass. Big bucks will have a circumference at the base of 6 inches and more.

2. Length is perhaps the first thing we notice and the most impressive part in the overall “look” of a buck. Some bucks have huge curls that make them look cool (I love the heart-shaped ones). Some bucks don’t curl much which makes them look taller and that can be neat as well. Mature bucks range from 12 inches to 16 inches and up. When looking at a profile view try to estimate how many inches the tip of the antler is above the ear.
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This beautiful antelope buck is extremely tall. If you were to put the ear up against the antler that would be approximately 6 inches up. You can see this buck has a lot of length past that.
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3. Prongs are the awesome features that make the pronghorn so unique! They can stick out, go up, go down, curl in, curl out, etc. They usually aren’t more than 5 inches, but some bucks get huge prongs that go 7 inches and over. The prong adds another big contribution to the “overall” look of a buck.
This buck was “massive” with over 7-inch bases and weight that carried all the way up. 84 5/8 SCI
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Pronghorn are unique in so many ways and they all differ from one another. The next time you’re out chasing “speed goats” remember the guidelines for field judging them but also remember the true trophy is in the eye of the beholder!
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A very cool non-typical buck taken by a 14-year-old Timberline client.
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Wyoming Black Bear Hunts with Timberline (Words from Repeat Client Keith Fontano)

10/8/2019

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So last week me and my Boy, Andrew (my Navy buddy from USS IWO JIMA) headed out on a bear hunt in the mountains of Wyoming and what a great time we had! We had camp set up at about 8800 feet just over the continental divide in some of the most beautiful country God has to offer! We went with the same outfitter I hunted pronghorn with last year and man do these guys know how to run a camp! Considering their outfitter license is #2 (meaning there is only one other guide in Wyoming who has been doing it as long as Craig has - 38 years) should tell you something about the expertise of our outfitter! Then add his Billy Goat-mountain-climbing-Son to the mix, and you can't find a better team to go hunting with! We went to camp as "clients" and came home as great friends! Me and Andrew were treated like family and when we got our bears, Craig and Nick were just as excited as we were! It was unreal to see two guys who do this all the time, and for so long, get so pumped up for our success! That is what really made the hunt so awesome. I got my bear on the second evening after passing on a small, but beautiful light-colored chocolate bear the first night.
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Andrew on the other hand, had to hunt his tail off for the entire 5 days and it paid off big time on the morning of the last day when he got his milk-chocolate bear! He was the first hunter to ever get one in the morning and from what Craig and Nick told us, he probably put in more time during the week than any other bear hunter has in the past. He was in the stand 8 different times, usually for 4 or 5 hours at a time and one day he was on stand for over 7 hours trying to catch up with Yogi! What made it even tougher, was he never saw a bear until the last day when he got his chocolate... Talk about perseverance! It just goes to show, bear hunting over bait is never a guarantee, and with multiple tree-stands to hunt, you can find yourself playing musical stands while chasing these elusive animals! 
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We are still on the road making our way back to Iowa and are already thinking/planning our next adventure! Andrew is going to make a rug with his bear and I am going to do a life-sized standing mount for up in the loft. We also brought home a ton of delicious red meat for the freezer, and if you want to talk about organic, it doesn't get anymore organic than this! Man do I love archery hunting out West!
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Welcome to Timberline Outfitters' New Website

3/26/2019

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New Adventures

Thanks for checking out our new site. We have a lot of fresh things going on here! This year we've picked up over 85,000 acres of private land between several ranches in Wyoming, Colorado and Iowa. Browse the site, check out our hunts and feel to email and call anytime. Recent season photos are up and I will be adding earlier seasons photos as well. Preference points are becoming pertinent in Wyoming and the other states in which we hunt. Read about Preference Points 

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